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2007.08.04

機械学習の実用化

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東大関連の話はkzkさんのを参考にしてもらうとして

>もちろん、実装は中学生でもできることだ。

機械学習を実用化レベルに持っていくためにはかなりの総合力が必要だと思います。
数学的な知識や機械学習の知識はもちろん、数値最適化の各手法やデータ構造を使い分けて、高速化、省メモリをどう達成するか、現実世界に発生するモデル化しきれないノイズをどう取り除ければいいかとかまで考えないといけない。

そのまま作ると、重い、動かない、間違っている、なんかよく分からないのが出るってことになると思います。
やりがいのあり面白いですが、結構大変。

機械学習も流行っているのは流行っているかもしれんですが、圧縮とかこれらの全部機械学習と一括りするのは違う気がする。根底に流れているのは似ているけど

例えば、JMLR とかにある論文を読んでまともに動かすのは大変だと思います。SIGGRAPHでやっている実装競争の機械学習版とかとかしてみたいですけどねぇ。

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機械学習に興味を持ってくれる人が増えるとうれしいけど.

機械学習ははやってるのかな?ICML とかでも,PCメンバーは,今年はそこそこいるけど,去年まで数年間,日本からは一人だけという寂しい状態でした.

Posted by: しましま | 2007.08.04 at 08:00 PM

アクセス数そんなに増えたんですか。すごいですねぇ
問題としては他の分野やっている人にも面白いのが多いのでもっと広まればなと思ってます。

ICMLとかNIPSとか日本人出るといいですね。もっとがんばらないといけないですね。そういう私も出すところまで行ってないし・・。いつも直前でどたばたするので、もっとどんどん研究会とかでて溜めないとだめですね。

Posted by: oka | 2007.08.04 at 11:18 PM

ちょっと考えてみました.
機械学習でも,確率の要素があまり関係ない「相関ルール」抽出とかは,実装の影響が大きく,いろいろなデータやメモリ量に応じた内部データ構造とかが議論されていると思います.

ですが,確率的な要素がある場合は,モデルの種類の複雑度の決定や,最適化の近似精度の方が,予測精度だけでなく,実行時間やメモリについてでも,実装より影響は大きいと思います.また,No-Free-Lunch定理のため絶対的なモデリングもないので,どれか一つの手法が選ばれて,その実装の競争になるということもない気がします.また,部品としては共通の部分はありますが,そうしたものは凸2次計画法とか,逆行列の計算とかで,すでの他の分野で実装競争になっています.実装競争でない,モデリングとかの競争が「機械学習」という分野のフォーカスしている部分じゃないかと思います.

Biship の PRML本 のAmazon.comの書評
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0387310738/
の12番目 Adam Bresee さんのコメントを見て思ったことです.端的には,数学の話しばっかりで役に立たないといった感じの趣旨だと思います.機械学習を使うには,モデリングの背後の概念を知らずに,適当にパッケージを使っても,ほとんどまともな結果に至りません.だから,中身はブラックボックスにして,使い方だけ知りたいとかはほとんど無理だと思います.PRML本を全て網羅するほど深くは知らなくても良いですが,機械学習手法を使おうとする人には,ある程度,背後の概念にも興味をもってもらえると嬉しいです.

Posted by: しましま | 2007.08.05 at 04:04 PM

>また,部品としては共通の部分はありますが,そうしたものは凸2次計画法とか,逆行列の計算とかで,すでの他の分野で実装競争になっています.実装競争でない,モデリングとかの競争が「機械学習」という分野のフォーカスしている部分じゃないかと思います.

モデリングも確かに重要ですが、実用化の面で見てみれば、やはり自分で作るというのも重要になってくると思います。例えば、数値計算ソフトとか使えば、さくさくっと作れて実験していい結果でるのですが、その数値計算ソフトがカバーしきれないものを扱おうと思った途端にお手上げというものでは困るわけですし。

まぁ、同じものを何回も作っても無駄なのでモジュール化して交換したり組み合わせたりもしたいですけどね。

実装競争はどちらかというと実装力の基礎体力を上げるために、興味本位でしてみたい感じです。それでいい実装がでて使えればベストですが

>機械学習手法を使おうとする人には,ある程度,背後の概念にも興味をもってもらえると嬉しいです.

そうですねぇ。背後にある概念はとても面白いのでぜひ基礎的な知識は知ってほしいものです。

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